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  1. jonny

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    MANILA, Philippines—Asian Football Confederation president Mohammad Bin Hammam Tuesday urged the country’s football leaders to unite, even as he pledged P10 million for the development of the sport in the Philippines.

    Speaking at the Philippine Football Federation Congress in Pasig City, the AFC chief from Qatar announced he is giving half the amount this year and P5 million more next year to help “you fix yourselves.”

    “I’m a real friend of yours, talking to you from my heart,” Hammam told the country’s football leaders in the presence of officials from Thailand, Laos, Timor Leste and Vietnam. “Please show some solidarity.”

    Hammam was referring to the moves to oust PFF president Jose Mari Martinez, which fizzled out Tuesday after the PFF Board of Governors struck out discussion on his removal from the Congress agenda.

    PFF legal counsel Carsi Cruz said the move did not follow the proper procedure as prescribed in Section 28 of the corporation code.

    Hammam added, “Your leadership is beset by politics. You have to be given the right platform, guidance and support. Save your nation. Save your youth.”

    Laguna FA president Jun Pacificador said he hopes the present PFF leadership will spend the money from Hammam on “worthwhile” projects.

    http://sports.inquirer.net/inquirersports/inquirersports/view/20090225-190879/Local-football-receives-P10-M-boost

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    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. cynthia

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    all these bickerings are pulling us backwards. it's got to end already.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. Ari

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    It's really sad to see the leaders of our football organizations fighting among themselves. It just needs to stop soon.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. Sorin

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    How does one gets to see the account books on what the PFF spends its money on and what are the sponsors contributions to the PFF?

    I just been on the PFF Official site tonight 11th of March and it still has last years calendar dysplayed

    Can anyone seriously call a Philippino Premier League a league that majority of the teams are from Manila.... Is it stil Running?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. Azkals

    The First Azkal
    Joined: Oct '08
    Posts: 1,311

    NCRFA had already checked the account books during Rodriguez reign. They did not find any corrupt expenses.

    FPL will start at the end of May (2009). According to Ernie, they will try to include teams from the provinces daw, hopefully it will come true.

    Making football known in the Philippines.
    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. josue

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    Sorin,

    middle of last year many serious people in PFF were fired,
    so no wonder that there are no serious updates.

    BOOKS in PFF cheked?
    Our informations are: People who did try it were hindrered to do in correct way!

    Mr Rodriguez?
    He had to leave PFF in September 2008, since this time everything is hanging in PFF and Mr. Rodriguez was always hindered, like NCRFA and OTHER FA´s , to check every detail in PFF!

    So it is a NO-GO argument what happened w/ the financial supports of FIFA !

    It was missused and FIFA Vice-President Hammam said "OKAY" to this missused FIFA money. ( in disadvance NATIONAL TEAMS, LIGAS and CLUBS, Players, Coaches )

    This corruption was reported in NEWSPAPERS .. f.ex. BUSINNESSMIRROR PHILIPPINES...
    and went around the world...
    Overpriced TILES in FIFA PFF HOUSE MANILA were more important as NATIONAL TEAM, LIGAS and CLUBS!

    That´s the hard facts!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. josue

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    Since words were done that PFF INTERNATIONAL GERMAN CONSULTANTS are not certified or not signatured/accepted by PFF PRESIDENT MARTINEZ....

    here the hard facts:

    http://cebufa.org/forum/index.php?topic=290.msg4246#msg4246

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. ernie

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    So jerk your at it again? As per Mari Martinez, PW is not part of the PFF. You're talking a different language. I do not know the other people you mentioned. I am only interested in proving that PW is not a consultant of the PFF as you claim him to be. You are bringing in people who are not part of this discussion. Stick with PW. I do not know the other people you mentioned.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. Weilered

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    Paul,

    Anyone can make a fake card. Even you dumbasses are able to, its easy. And a blurry pic as evidence? Oh come on!

    So you, Paul Weiler, has evidence from PFF that youre consultant? Well, why dont you show it to us rather than saying that it is in DFB/DFL or whatever, coz that doesnt prove anything. I dont really think that DFB even cares about you Paul. You think so highly of yourself.

    MAYBE YOU CAN SHOW US A COPY OF THE LETTER FROM ARANETA WHICH SHOWED THAT YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE PFF LOGO?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. josue

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    Ernie, you not know them ?... as close advisor of Mari?
    ...who is counting on them ...

    Ernie view on the Vison Asia photo of Albert Robert, published on the AFC webpage, between Rachel Gengco, Adonis Quitoy and others from CFA board.... so you know him latestly now!

    We can help you.. no problem!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. Sorin

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    Wow what a Lucky man..or should I say men..........Bin Hammam re-elected....

    The PFF boss he would have jumped for joy at the positive result and no doubt count his lucky stars as Bin Hammam most likely would have not follow through on his 10 mill promise if he would have lost this election which probably was his vote buy guarantee to start with...
    Imagine what could have happened if Bin would have lots the election...
    Well probably the new AFC boss if he knew that the PFF Boss which without any doubt voted for Bin would not support Philippine Football with any great enthusiasm under his power....

    Lets not dwell to much on ifs and buts and congratulate Bin for a close win
    And Mari for backing the right horse.... Close one never the less

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. josue

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    Sorin,

    we will see how much of this 10 M promise will come true.
    Fact is , since AFC Vision Asia and Mari/Bin Hammam binded CFA members in their politics...
    the balls are rolling lesser on the green venues in Cebu and elsewhere in Philippines since 8 months.

    VA brought desaster, so no wonder that private investor-guys like Mr. Schuwerk/Denker
    gave up to stay close beside PFF/CFA.

    Yeah, the AFC winners can enjoy it seems they achieved their goals that the balls in Asia won´t be kicked much in future.

    You heard about the promise that a league should start in Phils in this may?
    Now Hyundai said its just a cup.
    Cup and league isn´t it a difference ?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. Weilered

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    Post a link or confirmation where the sponsor says its only a Cup. And who cares? Its better than nothing. At least the players get to play games, and thats what they need. They dont need german @ssh0les telling the world this and that.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. Sorin

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    Josue

    This is you second reply to my postings and I have some issues with your unpleasant
    negative and full of irrelevant inflated allegations and off the topic replays.....

    I want to bring you up to good forum member etiquette and this are the rules that a serious contributor should try to follow in order to get respect from their forum peers....

    1 Unless you witnessed the allegations you are constantly bringing :) i strongly recommend you use words like: I suspect, maybe, probably etc. etc. etc. and that may make you half believable instead being ridiculed by every member of this forum about your claims and allegations..

    2 Try to keep to the topic and don't slide on to other issues that have little to do with the topic

    3 Try to be funny.... Lighten up this is football... not a conquistador or German invasion on Mach Pichu get my point???

    4 Don't claim to be someone else or tell lies about yourself and others as you will be most probably be exposed and found out someday.......

    I am done on the Forum etiquette matter..

    Now finally on the League vs Cup matter you raise, in my opinion it is irrelevant I don't really care as in both cases this is a band aid solution and a waste of money as true everlasting Football success only lies with a solid grass roots football setup in the country and for Football to become embraced by the whole population and this will only take years and billions of pesos invested and not only lousy $10 mil over 2 years form Mr Bin Hammam The Football in Philippines will succeed only if it grows from inside and not from miraculous handouts from outside...

    Josue I apologise if I offended you in any way.....but try to be constructive not destructive and argumentative and pretend that you know more than what you do Please do that if you love Phillippino Football....

    I also apologise to the fine Forum members as I drifted from the topic but I really had too

    I hope is the last time

    Yours Trully

    Sorin
    The Football Guru

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. josue

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    Sorin,

    with many of your suggestions I´ve no problems.
    So u get a smile from me "Machu Picchu".

    Ok back to fundamentals:
    There is/was a Sorin which supported CFCIA and its clubs about CFCIA full employee Adonis Quitoy....
    This Sorin came also from Australia...
    we would be glad if he can go ahead to help philippine football.

    We think he is an excellent manager, hopefully he will come to Philippines for a longer period, so maybe he can help to arrange that tourneys and clubs can run better.

    PFSA/CFCIA was VERY< THANKFUL that he not helped "only" supporting grassroot.
    This Sorin was/is busy also helping CLUBS w/ MEN ( ESPECIALLY XANTOS FC ) and LADIES ( MELBOURNE FC )...

    have a view on:

    http://cebufa.org/forum/index.php?topic=105.160

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. Sorin

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    Josue

    You are off topic again... This is the topic: "Local football receives P10-M boost"

    Not Who is Sorin, what Sorin did/does for CFCIA and others and speculating what i shold or may do...

    Now since you brought this up I want to clear the confusion......that you have created

    Yes I am that Sorin from Australia

    But in light of the facts and after further research on the net forums and from few more things I found out on my last visit mid January in Cebu I do not wish to support CFCIA endorse have anything to do with and have also come to this sad conclusion:

    CFCIA is a very controversial and one man Association that Paul Wheiler has created
    An Association that has no accreditation from FIFA, PFF or CFA
    I certainly got fooled by it 2 years ago when I was looking for contacts in Philippines...
    Paul Wheiler is using several names on his forum to control and manipulate and make it look better... sadly it does not and only exposes Paul for the fraud and pretender that he is...(Hypocritical since he is trying to eradicate fraud and corruption In Philippines Football...Funny Guy :)
    Paul Weiler is giving himself grand sounding titles and assumes various Positions which are totally misleading and not true.

    He often name drops, quotes and claims association with important people in Football
    to make himself look important.This only make Philippines loose faith and trust in foreigners that attempt to truly help....

    I will continue to support Football in Cebu and Mindanao and I will associate and seek to associate with quality individuals that truly help football at grass roots such as Mr. Schuwerk whom I admire for his amazing work with disadvantaged kids in Lapu Lapu. and Cebu

    I finish here by apologising to the forum for being of topic but I had to finish this nonsense once and for all I can only hope...............

    Josue/Paul need no reply please! I don't want your irrelevant replays

    Regards and Best Wishes..............

    Yours Truly
    Sorin
    The Football Guru

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. locotes

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    OMG Josue I dont want to mind you or even get involve on your post, but you just make a lot of off topic replies and it creates confusion in the forum. Can the admin do anything about this? Magulu na masyado ang forum, kalatkalat ang topic sa mga titles nya. You want to open a thread coz it intrest you but you end up reading things about josue post. Admin can you fix this? para naman mas maging ok tong site na to.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. Weilered

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    Finally someone who sees what CFCIA is all about. Its all about 1 man, and that is Paul Weiler, a fraud and crazy man. People laugh when asked if they know who that funny little man is. I just feel sorry for Adonis Quitoy who seems to be a nice guy, but Paul is somehow using him as his puppet and thinks that he has a foot inside of the Cebu Football Association, because Adonis is a board member. Confront Paul with that, and he says he has the right to make decisions and that he is a part of the CFA.

    I dont even think Xantos FC have received any financial support what so ever from Paul and his "goons". It doesnt seem like it. If i were Adonis, i would break out of CFCIA, that is if theyre a member of the CFCIA, so i wouldnt embarrass myself further down the road when more people opens up their eyes. I actually havent seen any confirmations that Xantos FC is a part of CFCIA. Isnt it supposed to be an International Academy? Where are the fields, the coaches, the players? Where are the plans? I also wonder, why Adonis is using one of Pauls emails? I guess Paul has something to do with that. People think theyre contacting, but theyre actually emailing Paul.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. Sorin

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    Weilerd

    this responds is in relation to you questioning Adonis Quitoy involvement with Paul and CFCIA.
    I have personally met Adonis over a year ago and constantly kept contact since and I would like to inform you that he has as early as last week in a YM chat with me distanced himself from Paul and CFCIA also Paul has no influence or presence in CFA what so ever...Just like me Adonis in the past swallowed the hook line and sinker and believed Paul and his BS but he has seen the light and ultimately did what must be done. Distance Ignore and expose.....
    At first glance unless you go deeply and spend hours and hours researching one can only believe and give validity to Paul and CFCIA due to their busy website and I can only attribute this to the fact that despite some members on this site criticised Paul’s website as chaotic poorly constructed etc. etc. still is more up to date, busier, informative and faster loading that PFFs own site that now at the end of May 2009 still has 2008 calendar displayed, that is sad and gives credibility to a shady, controversial person and questions the validity, commitment or lack of commitment and activity of the PFFs management. If a guy like Paul Weiler can have an up to date fast loading site, why can't the federation...can somebody explain..? This is inexcusable knowing how affordable is to maintain a website in Philippines and the internet is a very important and affordable communication tool...every respectable Company Organisation and/or Federation has one….

    Regards Sorin
    The Football Guru

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. josue

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    hahaha Ernie2,

    you run jokes, your size I could see on pics, you are not taller as me...
    and I´m, as peruanian citizen, samller as Mr. Weiler, but very sure above the average of Filipinos, I´m 1,73 m and you?

    but size is not everything ... knowledge is the key and if it is used fair minds .

    About Adonis Quitoy:
    He switched after he received the presents from FIFA Vice-Pres. Bin Hammam to the AFC group and did not hold anymore in the signatured contract w/ pro-club Alemannia Aachen.

    So we let him go and we understand that he can earn more money in AFC as through us ( CFCIA which is now organized in PFSA ).
    Adonis received a fix monthly salary of 1o ooo PHP.
    He received about Mr. Rodtheut, Mr. Peters and Mr. Weiler also equipments, shoes, balls, cellphone etc., so not only fix monthly salary.

    We understand that Mr. Hammam ( see the bad reports about the FIFA Vice-President ) and PFF Pres. Martinez has a direct influence now in Cebu.

    CFCIA will go in moment on distance to this system and we are glad that we only sponsor independent projects away from CFA in Cebu.

    If Mr. Quitoy now used bad words about Mr. Weiler it´s up to him!
    ( we understand much bec. of FIFA Hammam influence )
    Fact is CFCIA and Mr. Weiler are FURTHERON staying beside FAIR PLAY and we used it.

    If Hammam, Martinez , Mr. Quitoy and others not want to use it ... we will do!

    Posted 2 years ago #

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