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  • Started 2 years ago by Phillip Hagedorn
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  1. qwerty0.0

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    Joined: Nov '09
    Posts: 62

    Judging from the tone of your post it seems like you actually mean what you say and you're not exactly venting or having a go at me for my previous post. At first I didn't know how to react but then I realized I'm surprised to say the least. I was actually expecting some form of defense for this football project in your post and instead I got a personal invitation to give some advice. Since that was non-existent then there must be some doubt over this project, or should I say "rebirth". If you can't defend this project and if there's some form of doubt then any advice from me or anybody else would be useless. So no, no thanks, and no need for you to waste your time either explaining the program to me. I also don't feel like watching two branches of the military fighting it out in a cup final.

    And next month, the national team meets up for a supposed very long training camp, it lasts a few months if I'm not mistaken. There are a handful of national team players playing for clubs in this competition. So that should put the UFL on hiatus, no???? The planned rebirth would have to wait or gets destroyed I'm guessing, or a better way to put it, it would continue to stay in labor. hehe!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. Phillip Hagedorn

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    Joined: Sep '09
    Posts: 25

    We at the Football Alliance do not pretend to have all the answers. We are open to advise from all who that think that Football is important. Since you don't want to share your deep knowledge of the sport then I hope you can use it to help Philippine Football in one way or another.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. Phillip Hagedorn

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    Joined: Sep '09
    Posts: 25

    The UFL League will begin in January with over 400 players participating. There will be 8 teams in 1st Division and 8 teams in 2nd division. If a handful of players are selected to join the national team we will be very proud that we have done something to help Philippine Football move forward.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. qwerty0.0

    senior member
    Joined: Nov '09
    Posts: 62

    Umm..... OK!?

    At the end of the day, football in the Philippines will never fly.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. gee_bed

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    Joined: Feb '09
    Posts: 16

    i guess that summed up all your post qwerty. you could have posted that initially. anyway i guess you never liked philippine football. that's how i see you.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. Weilered

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    Joined: Apr '09
    Posts: 118

    Philip Hagedorn, almost all of the teams in the league have or have had players playing for the RP team the last 4-5 years or so. Just check the rosters. So, there will be more than a handful. Even players from other regions are in Manila playing in the league. Btw, any plans in the future to expand to Visayas and Mindanao? I think it would be good. It also means other opportunities for players, meaning that they wont have to move to Manila to compete against the best.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. qwerty0.0

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    Joined: Nov '09
    Posts: 62

    Why!? There's a discussion and therefore I said what I had to say! And it's not the point whether someone likes philippine football or not. I'm just stating a fact and judging by your reaction, you couldn't handle it! Well, tough luck and man up!!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. gee_bed

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    Joined: Feb '09
    Posts: 16

    you never posted anything that could help. why dont you walk your talk. that couldve helped instead of whining with this and that.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. bomber

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    Joined: Nov '09
    Posts: 38

    Actually qwerty, you stated an opinion, not a fact. Everybody should be entitled to their opinion, and of course people change their opinions over time. The good news for football supporters is that the rest of the world is adopting football. In Canada, more people play football than ice hockey. In the USA and Japan football is taking over from baseball in participation. Australia is producing strong players in a country that was devoted to rugby, cricket, golf, and drinking beer (ok they still love drinking beer). My point is that just because football is not a prominent sport in the RP now, doesn't mean it will stay that way. Other countries have shown that football can rise in popularity to take a prominent role. It may take longer than we would hope, but it would not surprise me if qwerty changes his opinion in the future.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. josue

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    Joined: Oct '08
    Posts: 171

    No question UFL league and denker league are very good steps in front, but both are not perfect leagues/cups..

    I got only infos about UFL league on http://www.PFSA.biz and more on Facebook, but the official site of UFL was less promoted .. I only got about PFSA..
    then no simple videos ( only from opening ) .. and no or seldom pictures of the Fans...

    school classes weren´t invited to watch .. club trainings were not mentioned... no addresses of clubs... on official page...

    Does Mama Africa has an own manager?, train .. in which stadium? how will youth players will enter such clubs if der is no infos..

    hopefully Denker league will be more transparent w/ their clubs...

    Football can only climb up in Philippines if clubs are transpenent , have own homepages, addresses, Training schedules. own marketing concepts and so on...
    and proud of their own Logos and club name.
    Its STANDARd aroun the world that cliubs are not called Kaya Ice Cream or whatever, but connedcted w/ a region.

    Even in basketball in USA Chicago Bulls are always Chicago Bulls and not Chicago Ice Cream.

    so a quality management around the clubs are important and such managers have to be searched systematically, how Humansportaid, Astra Scelta Undicci and FCIC do it..

    so a steady serious management system have taking place.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. qwerty0.0

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    Joined: Nov '09
    Posts: 62

    gee_bed...

    Walk my talk?!? LOL. I never said or pointed anything out that needed proving. So how am I suppose to "walk my talk"?!?! That's egg on your face right there!

    bomber...

    Your argument is flawed. You can't just point out different countries and the way football is becoming more popular and say that it will be same in another country like the philippines because you don't seem to be taking in any sort of factors.

    Take Canada for instance which you pointed out. They've had a proper system in place and has been professional for a long time already. It's easier for them to attract interest and to improve what's already in place. And above everything, all those countries that you pointed has one thing that the philippines hardly has(it's practically zero to be honest), and it's sporting culture and tradition, not just in football but in general. It's practically impossible to build up a sport especially football to a level which some of you think it can reach without a foundation of sporting culture. There's no way!

    People like Mr. Hagedorn are trying to help it by giving it some wings and I applaud their effort. But like I said, at the end of the day, even if you give it wings it will never fly.

    And no bomber, my mind will not change and I'm surprised that you won't be surprised if my mind changes. That is it..... I'm out!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. gee_bed

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    Posts: 16

    it seems like you can run the league better? so why not do it then? start it by changing the team names.
    then you could say egg on my face.
    or stop whining! i think that's the only thing you could do to help. you havent contributed anything but just saying this and that to all posts.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. qwerty0.0

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    Joined: Nov '09
    Posts: 62

    Run a better league?? Where did I say I can do better?? Even if I could I wouldn't waste my own time doing so!

    I'm not whining you idiot! Things like those team names, I was merely pointing the awkwardness of it! You also gotta admit that it is awkward one way or another because financial backing doesn't automatically mean having their name into the team name! And you clearly can't seem to distinguish the difference between that and whining! Because of that, you just got more egg on your face!

    Another thing is, even if I was whining(which I'm not), the problem with you and people like you is that you think everything all fine. If something comes your way which you have interest in or can relate to or if it affects you in one way or another, it's already perfect. You just seem to accept it straight away and to you there can't be any sort of criticism, well that's not how things work. And once again you can't seem to accept it and that tells me a whole lot about you.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. gee_bed

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    hahahah now you are calling me an idiot? wow! ok so you are not whining then. whiner! so don't run a league. be an adviser cause it sure does shows that you know way alot than those running the league. make it perfect just the way you wat it.
    people here never said that the league is already fine. what we do here is we give the league a chance to run beccuase this could be the start. why not give it a chance. then you start doing this and that. not only on this post but on all other post you have, it's purely negative.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. josue

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    Joined: Oct '08
    Posts: 171

    correct gee bed UFL league ( even not perfect ) is a very good start up ! .. and it shows the ryt direction.
    pacman Pacquiao also underlined that Phils can be a sporty worldclass leveled nation.

    In USA long time football was not mentioned there .. now it has a steady place in society.

    I´m sure especioally younger people in Phils can bring up phil sport/footy on another level.
    Not only the fil foreigners gave hope also local players ( like Emilio Caligdong ).
    Fact is Philippine NT ( under PFF Prez. Romualdez FiFA rank 199 ) was not much respected...
    now it climb up mostly through private support on FIFA rank 155 ( now 167 ) ...

    PRIVATE Fan or supporter pressures ( especially through Internet pages ) and actions like Denker League or UFL League can bring changes to a beTTer level.

    To say there is no way up its definetly wrong. There are hopes and clear opportunities.

    We will see how Philippine NT will compete in Taiwan.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. qwerty0.0

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    Joined: Nov '09
    Posts: 62

    There you go again!! You're so damn sensitive to criticism even when some things aren't not directed at you!! And even then, all I'm doing is calling things the way they already are! The way you're reacting is like me walking down the street and I see a pile if azkal shit and i say that it smells bad and you get sensitive about it as if it doesn't smell bad! Jeez!!

    With regards to the team names, I said they were very awkward N-O-T, NOT negative or bad!!

    With regards to what I think of philippine football in general, well history has already proven what my sentiments! And the only tradition that the philippine football has is being the whipping boys in world football, that is fact! If you get all sensitive about that even though it's fact then you need some serious help!!

    Like I said, I applaud what people like philip hagedorn is doing, but at the end of the the day tradition will be followed and you can give it wings but it will never fly!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. Weilered

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    Joined: Apr '09
    Posts: 118

    Josue AKA Paul Weiler,

    Dont compare the UFL and Denker league. Coz the UFL is way better organized, and the whole structure around it is alot better. Even the Aboitiz is better. As told to you before, dont compare football abroad to football in Philippines. Not all clubs can have a website, own stadium, or MANAGER in the Philippines. You should really try to think before you post, coz many of your posts are nonsense. Many people like you and others actually have bigger income than what the clubs in the Philippines have. They cant spend money on things they really dont need. Its either spend money on a website, or money on equipment/tournaments etc. Which one do you think they will choose? Of course they can hire you so that you can take their money and make them a crappy website.

    Its not normal that teams are called Kaya Ice Cream? Heh, ever heard of Red bull team? You really need to stop talking nonsense.

    Again, Denker league still has nothing to show for. In their first run they had teams not showing up, teams quitting the league in the middle of the "season", and even when there were important games, teams still didnt show up. The Denker league is no where near the UFL at the moment. So shut up and wait and what happens in February and see if it really is as good as you say it is. Im betting its not, coz everything that comes out of you is pure BS.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. Weilered

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    Joined: Apr '09
    Posts: 118

    I get what qwerty is trying to say. How many times have the Philippines started a supposedly pro-league and its been folded after only 1 year? Many times, and there are even no news about the FPL, and that was only 1 season. This time it might be different because they have big sponsors backing them up, but how big is the backup? Thats what i would like to know. How much money are the sponsors chipping in, if they only pay for jerseys, then whats the point?

    The league is also semi-pro, are the players being paid and so on. Hopefully someone here, or Mr. Hagedorn can chime in on that particular questions.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. qwerty0.0

    senior member
    Joined: Nov '09
    Posts: 62

    How come this forum doesn't even have quote buttons?!?! Frickin useless ass site. Because of that I'm confused as hell.

    Weilered... in your first post, who you talkin too?? It sounds like you're trying to address me AND Josue at the same time.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. Weilered

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    Joined: Apr '09
    Posts: 118

    First post is for Josue, not you. And i agree, no quote buttons in a forum is pretty useless.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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